Neither are traditions like voting, parades, fireworks or football games rooted in the bible. Wonder if she avoids doing a disservice to God by staying home on the 4th of July? Atheist Mommy, I COMPLETELY support the right of non-Christians to be free from pushy Christians at all times. But you're never going to see that "Extreme Christian" become a non-believer. That "Extreme Christian" is about as fundamentalist as you can get. Dream on.
"Wonder if she avoids doing a disservice to God by staying home on the 4th of July?" You answered your question with the sentence proceeding it.
I believe the difference is that those traditions aren't misrepresented and falsely linked to their faith, the way winter solstice traditions have been hijacked and attached to Xmas. Personally, I celebrate Xmas as a completely secular holiday. Thanksgiving, but with gifts. ;-)
Continuing my thought from moments ago... I will never, ever hope for you to change your mind about religion. You're an atheist, and that works for you. Makes me wonder about your compass, however, that you sit around hoping against hope for people to fall away from their beliefs. The sense of superiority you revel in is smug at best and downright chilling at worst.
Ummmm....wouldn't talking to someone about Jesus, in hopes that you would save them, be doing the exact same thing. Don't Christians hope against hope that they'll turn people to his teachings? It seems to me, using your own logic, a great many Christians are guilty of the aforementioned superiority complex. At least atheists are well todo (for the most part) internet trolls, pointing out the logical fallacy that comes with realizing Christianity is illogical. Christians are commanded by Jesus to change peoples minds and beliefs.
I think she's specifically referring to the pagan origins of Christmas. If you're unaware, just Google "pagan origins of Christmas" and read away. She's just a hair away from realizing that the whole Christian religion is just recycled pagan myths. As far as me being I suppose spending 30 years as a Catholic that I learned how to think I was superior and look down on others. It was very much ingrained in my head through school & family that everyone else who didn't believe as we did would spend infinity burning in hell.I like the compass analogy. I guess it feels like I was given a magnet to keep with me in my pocket - at all times, at Baptism. Now that I was finally able to throw away that magnet, I can see for the first time which way my compass really does point. Do I want other people to find out they have a magnet in their own pocket? Absolutely! That's not smug... that's just my way of hoping other find out what I was able to find out too.
"I will never, ever hope for you to change your mind about religion." -AnonymousIn other words, the guy (or gal) really believes in hell and wants you to burn there.Nice.The sense of superiority and smugness and arrogance that I've been exposed to the most has come from the religious (myself included when I used to think I knew it all).I've always, even when a practicing Christian, wanted people to dig and fight for truth, it's that fight for truth that lead me to my current atheism, and I'm still willing to be wrong, maybe there is a god, but which one of his or her many manifestations should I follow? I'm done following made up myths and legends as truth, so until there is more evidence in, I'm a non-believer and I think anyone that doesn't give that position a good look is just using circular reasoning to justify their own conclusions.
Unfortunately, I don't think this woman will become an atheist any time soon. I grew up in a home that didn't celebrate any holiday because of the pagan roots on which the tradition was established. If any thing it just makes them feel like they are right in the eyes of the lord. We would stop going to church from time to time, because my mom and step-dad would find something wrong with the members of the church, especially with the pastor. But instead of thinking, "Hmmm...maybe there is no god." They would think "All of these people are wrong, and not following god. We are the only ones following gods will." Just imagine how scary that is growing up in a house like that. Words can't express how free I felt when I realized there is no god.